HomeGenie for Dummies Document - X10 Centric

Great.

Any updates on your end? Have you been able to get something to work?

Kevin,

Thanks a huge amount for your doc and help!

Also big thanks to Tuicemen for his help; together, I was able to make progress and learn some new things no one ever knew about HG…

For instance, did you know you CAN have AHP & HG BOTH running on the same computer and not interfering with each other?

Did anyone know you can switch back and forth between these programs with no issues?

The major learn here is: We know each USB port is unique and thus you can plug cm15 into port 1, let AHP grab it with its driver and it will work. Unplug and plug into USB port 2 and let HG garb it and install ITS driver. Now, just plug into the port you want and use the program of your choice. Switch over for cm15 recognition in either program is about 3 seconds in my win 10 64b machine.

I found we do NOT need transceived house codes turned on it cm15 for rf to work.

We found the x10 virtual rf program MUST be on for HG to use X10 security devices - and it does not seem to go into effect until a computer reboot (even stopping and restarting the HG service did not activate this program after turning on).

I found the built in security program has a code (I don’t recall exact name here) that points to a security keyfob device to use it to arm/disarm. So obviously a MACRO will be required to see more than 1 key fob device (I need one in the car, the office, the workshop, the house, and on the golf cart).

The show stopper to use HG instead of AHP is not being able to have HG send RF key fob sig to my DS7000 real security console. I believe Tuicemen has this working with addition of two outside things: HA-something software and something RM hardware device. So I bought the RM thing, it will be here next week and I will regroup and beg Tuicemens continued help to make this extra stuff fill the RF send of security code from HG" gap. It is my hope that once running we can learn how to send security RF from HG hooked to cm15 modem without additional hardware and software.

I hope more and more x10 people come here and begin experimenting and adding documentation like you have - eventually we can document this HG thing properly and save the 100’s of hours presently required by EVERYONE to use it!

Well that sounds great… and with so much X10 in your configuration- you sound like a very patient person.

If you want to use my document as a starting point to add your learnings too- that is fine by me… we can just keep adding to it and re-posting it?

Or feel free of course to start your own documentation. I guess it would be great to have it as a google doc that multiple people could edit simultaneously…

Sounds like you are doing very well then!!!

when I get my RM device, and figure out where to download the HA thing and get some guidance (pictures?) for Tuicemen how he has configured it, I agree the living doc is a good idea and I will add to it what I am learning. I think if we experiment with EACH icon, each individual thing we can right some notes about what it does, how to to use it.

You might be talking about HA Bridge. That is what I use to connect Alexa to HomeGenie.

The doc I posted should have a section on setting that up too. If it doesn’t… let me know.

I actually created a HA-Bridge interface program to help make it easier for users wishing to use devices configured in it from HG
This was mainly so I could easily interface with the Broadlink RM.
I also had several other devices already configured in HA-Bridge which I can now easily control from HG.

Well. That sounds great! I think I read about your work in that earlier now that you mention it. Us x10 maniacs (word chosen carefully) all owe you a lot for all your contributions over the years!!

Since you’ve been using HA-Bridge with HG for a while can you post a sample script for say A1 dim to use in HA-Bridge. The Dim function (which I rarely use) eludes me.

Sorry… I am not doing any dimming either in HA-Bridge. I am only doing a couple lights on and off and ALL lights on and off. :frowning:

No problem. Maybe someone else can enlighten me.

I actually only control a couple of lights as well with HA-Bridge and Alexa. I use more appliances and specialty devices I rigged up like my Outdoor Wood Furnace, Solar tracker and fans here at my Off grid Cottage.

I use it more for lights in the city but even there I rarely dim or brighten.

Guys, my RM thing came in today! So I would love to try to install that HA thing and then do something tomorrow during the day… So far I have found 5 or so sites that talk about how to program? the HA but none that show where to download it… I am way behind your eighballs and need to catch up fast!

the HA-Bridge can be downloaded from here: https://github.com/bwssytems/ha-bridge/releases

THANKS for saving me 30 minutes of searching!

I sure would like to know what the RM Thing is…. what is its actual name?

The RM thing is the Broadlink RM Pro
http://www.ibroadlink.com/rmPro+/

Can’t imagine anyone wanting to use Active Home Pro at this stage. It’s all but defunct at this stage and patching together a 20+ year old Windows application is hardly the way forward.

Most of what you need to know about HomeGenie has already been covered in the old homegenie forum. X10 in HomeGenie is very straightforward and with the sample applications provided by the users there it should answer all your questions.

The installation of HA Bridge in HomeGenie is already documented in the old forum. I did point Tuicemen in the right direction to that fact. It’s all copy and paste instructions to get it working on the Raspberry Pi and other Linux installs. Not sure about Windows as I don’t use it.

Glad to see you guys are sharing your experiences here. There are a lot of experienced HomeGenie users here who have a very good working knowledge of C#, JavaScript and JSON and have been very helpful to the project.

HomeGenie can be a little daunting for the novice but a very useful application to learn a little programming which can’t be encouraged enough.

Don’t forget to report back here and of course credit those who provide solutions for you. It makes for a very harmonious community.

Kevin, sorry. the em thing is Broadlink RM. it can be googled.

Tuicemen is the only one who has reported being able to SEND X10 security codes via RF from HG - what we require to let HG control our X10 DS7000 security consoles. Or even the older original X10 security console. His discovery is HG will talk to java program called HA-bridge, and HA-bridge will talk to this $ 25 hardware device called broadlink RM. The em thing connects via wifi to your network and can send IR (I don’t care) and RF commands - somehow it learns to mimick these - I am guessing by hearing them once and recording them in its memory. Then on demand it can spew the mimicked RF back out.

I found native win10 does NOT include Java, and since I have had no need for it in past, none of my dozen win 10 upgraded machines has it! makes the ha-bridge totally useless and frustrating until I figured that out.

Then too the rm thing is brain dead and totally useless out of the bo too! From tuicemens valuable input I assumed I did not need to run the android app called e-automation that it says to do in its instructions… finally did download it to phone, and it now talks to rm and is ready for network pw to connect and maybe do something!

Thanks again Tuicemen!!

I feel like a tortoise in a race against a rabbit!

My memory isn’t what it once was so I tend to miss steps, sorry about that. You may wish to have a look at my forum in the Broadlink section as I did create some threads for the broadllink all of which were for Windows. A quick read through them may be helpful.

I cover HA Bridge some in that HG for X10 doc I am pretty sure. If not- let me know and I will send you the version that has it. It is not particularly hard to use. I am surprised Win 10 doesnt include Java but it is super easy to install- so that should not be a problem. Are you having trouble figuring out how to get Java on your Win 10 machine??

I wont be one of those guys but man… I actually cant believe someone actually uses an X10 security system. I have enough trouble getting X10 lights to go on at dusk and off at dawn reliably. Good for you though if you can stomach it. After about 15 years… I am trying to slowly get off of X10.

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Ok so do the following:

Ensure you have the X10RF package installed.

Create a widget and assign it as a Switch.

In the Features/Options section assign it as IR Remote Controller.

In the Enable control by IR remote section tick that box

In the Toggle module with IR button section click on that little eye :eye: to your right. It will now allow you to record the RF command so issue that command from your device by tripping it or pressing a switch or whatever.

A hex code should appear to the left of that :eye:. Save the widget and now you have a widget corresponding to your device/sensor

When asking questions try keep them as short and sweet as possible. It makes it easier for users to give you a straightforward answer.

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